good motor to have on hand

Can't really tell too much of a difference between these and the plaid 0802s, but I'm not super picky with my whoops and they both work well

0802 18000kv sits in the "sweet spot" for flight time and power. Too high KV and yeah it'll rip, but you'll be done in 2 mins. Too low and it will have longevity, but will put you to sleep and will be in the upper portion of throttle.

I'd say these are the best for 1s 31mm-40mm props for beginners. Haven't tried them with 1mm shaft 65mm props on a mosquito XL frame to say how they preform. But on a 40mm regular mosquito frame, they are a blast! Also super easy to swap FC and motors to either a 65mm or 75mm whoop frame.

great for your build

Replaced 4 working EX0802 with these to find only 2 of the new gold motors working properly. 1 doesn't start half the time, the other doesn't work at all, and is way tighter / harder to spin by hand than the others. I've since replaced with Tiny Whoop motors, and oh wow look at them all work as they should. This is the 3rd time I've received faulty products in the few orders I've placed with NBD. This is the second time my emails and FB chats have been ignored by customer service on the replacement of these bad products. It's been a week and Dalton can't find the time to return a simple email about when replacements will be available or give a refund. Never again buying from NBD.